Shoemoney vs. Wickedfire: Crybaby DramaBomb
So first, a little back-story.
Nov 7, 2007 – Shoemoney posts about the Ringtones Bandit
You can see the post here: http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/11/17/flycell-ring-tones-adwords-domination/
Basically, this was the beginning of a months long campaign by some guy who figured out how to game adwords by getting the entire first page of google ads showing all his own nearly-identical ad copy. Shoemoney obviously bitter because it’s cutting into his ringtones biz, decides to try and shut it down by making a post about it to expose the guy (Fail. It’s still going on today.) The Ringtones Bandit at this point is using an Azoogle ads ringtones offer (Flycell), but no mention of Azoogle ads is made in the post.
Please note that shoemoney is “in bed” with azoogle. He regularly promotes them on his blog and is personal friends with the head guys over there. Also please note that this shouldn’t be viewed as a bad thing for azoogle. They’re apparently a good company, and even though Nickycakes hasn’t personally promoted their offers, he knows people who do and love them.
Feb 4, 2008 – Shoemoney posts again about Ringtones Bandit
You can see the post here: http://www.shoemoney.com/2008/02/04/google-adwords-still-getting-owned/
Almost as soon as the Ringtones Bandit stopped using Azoogleads for his ringtones campaigns, Shoemoney posts again. Since his buddies were no longer personally affected if the Ringtones Bandit were to be stopped, he writes a much more biting attack. This time, rather than addressing the person responsible for making the campaigns, he goes after the network where the ringtones offer was being tracked, claiming that they are responsible for what is happening. Anyone who knows anything about affiliate marketing will tell you that this is some retarded BS since the affiliate network, in this case CPAempire, only acts as a middleman and doesn’t promote these offers themselves, in almost all cases.
When Nickycakes posted a comment on shoemoney’s post, saying almost exactly that, shoemoney replied saying that Nickycakes must be some kind of newb and that if he knew anything about the shoemoney blog, he’d know that shoemoney is most critical of Azoogleads out of all of the networks. WRONG…WRONG. A quick search of his blog will show exactly the opposite. In fact, the only time Azoogle is given even a hint of criticism is when Shoemoney posted about the $1mil settlement between Azoogle and Florida for ringtones scammyness in which Shoemoney made a full paragraph disclaimer about how he only felt compelled to post it because he promotes them so hard and they’re his friends and he doesn’t want to look bad.
Feb 5, 2008 – Jon from Wickedfire’s Epic Post
The post can be viewed here: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/22584-john-chow-shoemoney-super-affiliate-mindest-camels.html
Ok, so in this post, Jon calls out Shoemoney, John Chow, Amit Mehta for being retards. There are some personal attacks that tend to dilute the quality of the post, but that’s how we roll on wickedfire. The bulk of the post is about Shoemoney, though, and sounds a lot like it was inspired by Shoemoney’s bash on CPAEmpire the day before. In the post, Jon calls out Shoemoney on the following points:
- Shoemoney is biased in what he posts, but tries to present himself as otherwise.
- Shoemoney lied about being wrongfully banned from DMOZ when in fact he was banned for trying to bribe them.
- Shoemoney mysteriously lost wickedfire’s referral revenue for Auctionads prior to selling it (over 100 referrals worth).
- He’s pretty much a giant crybaby for whining about being banned from Yahoo’s referral program for sending so many fraudulent links (says a lot about his readership).
- He’s the illegitimate love-child of Jared from Subway and Mr. Clean.
Feb 11, 2008 – Shoemoney, in desperate need of vagisil, takes it to the next level
News reaches the affiliate marketing wires that Shoemoney has actually sent a legal Cease and Desist letter to wickedfire. What a crybaby. Nickycakes is not sure of the specifics, but it sounds pretty retarded. The full story will develop in due time, at which point Nickycakes and his love for drama will inevitably post about it, so stay tuned
keep it real.
ROFLS Shoemoney is now hacked or something? Redirecting to http://www.affiliate.com/?affilate=shoemoney
Ironically, his last entry was about cloaking and redirection.
Back now, sadly, it would appear.
Yeah Shoemoney really gets on my tits.
I wish he would go away.
I remember when there was no Shoemoney. It was great.
Bwahahaha – I love this story. Its like an affiliate marketing soap opera.
100% agree with you cakes! Nice post b-man said it right…this is like an affiliate marketing soap opera
Shoemoney is a big fat crybaby. He ain’t got shit on deStone.
yes, destone is the next big thing in make money online blogging. you heard it here first.
That’s great. I always thought shoemoney was a whiney now we have proof. This article has made my night thanks for great article.
Bud
Yeah, go cakes! Let the drama continue.
“He’s the illegitimate love-child of Jared from Subway and Mr. Clean.”
You take that back. There was no love there. Evar.
NickyCakes.com for the in depth in analysis, now I know the whole story! Sounds like people story flipping, but everything is logged and recorded!
Shoemoney is probably pissed at you now, great.
I feel a C&D coming to the cakefactory shortly.
I cant wait until ASW: a bunch of pussy computer nerds slinging their limp wrists at each other in the biggest girlfight known to mankind. Amazing amazing.
Cakes, you da man!
- Barman: When I become famous, i’ll give you a link without ref=”nofollow”
haha does barman even have a site?
This is an insult to Mr. Clean. He’s hot.
Like sands through the hour glass so are the adwords of every campaing. Haha Someone bring a camera and film the “pussy computer nerds slinging their limp wrists at each other”… Then put a watermark on it with an affiliate link and throw it on YouTube. Haha
“pussy computer nerds slinging their limp wrists at each other”
nostrils hurt. diet coke. shooting out.
It is slightly ironic/hypocritical that he hates 95% of SEOs yet he appears to to practice dubious on line marketing techniques.
Who needs a site when you’re busy reading deStone’s blog?
Shoemoney keeps getting and fatter and fatter. The question is, if he gets fat enough, will he undergo another “experimental” operation? Because I don’t know if I can bear another post about that again.
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On the topic of Shoemoney claiming that his blog is critical of Azoogleads..is clear evidence that his blog is written by someone other than shoemoney himself…main reason why i do not want to read his blog anymore..
I can’t believe that I actually thought Shoemoney was great at one time…now I think the guy is a whiny asshat. Never liked con men..when they are stupid enough to get caught, that is. Good article
“He’s the illegitimate love-child of Jared from Subway and Mr. Clean.”
OK, I spit come of my coffe out on that one. For a guy from that kind of breeding stock, he sure posts a lot of pictures of himself on his blog.
Dam, wickedfire post down :/
Nice post, Keeping it real.