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		<title>By: Internet Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nickycakes.com/google-money-tree-hit-by-texas-attorney-general-can-you-really-be-this-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-5742</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh..I was never aware that its a SCAM.. I am thinking that its good that they have found it. Is it not late if they found it just now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh..I was never aware that its a SCAM.. I am thinking that its good that they have found it. Is it not late if they found it just now?</p>
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		<title>By: noobies</title>
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		<dc:creator>noobies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the Networks policing their offers more. Coming from 2 very highly regulated industries the networks MUST get rid of the sh*t before we are told to promote it. I dont have time to hunt down every full disclosure on an offer. That is what my AM and their Networks are supposed to do. Thats why they get their cut and have compliance and shave leads to pay for them all. We have to pay our ads BEFORE we get paid. THEY can make sure this sh*t is legit BEFORE we even know it exists to promote.
NOW our job... dont lie... dont make up shit. Fake testimonials, saying your a news company when you not. Come on. You dont like that sh*t when its done to you. Dont rationalize the greed and pay-it-forward with greedy lies.
YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE MONEY HONESTLY... IN FACT MORE BECAUSE YOU CAN SELL TO THE CUSTOMER MORE THAN 1X !!! unless you screw them over.
Think about it !!!!
p.s. even with all this sh*t I have been profitable since day 1 :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Networks policing their offers more. Coming from 2 very highly regulated industries the networks MUST get rid of the sh*t before we are told to promote it. I dont have time to hunt down every full disclosure on an offer. That is what my AM and their Networks are supposed to do. Thats why they get their cut and have compliance and shave leads to pay for them all. We have to pay our ads BEFORE we get paid. THEY can make sure this sh*t is legit BEFORE we even know it exists to promote.<br />
NOW our job&#8230; dont lie&#8230; dont make up shit. Fake testimonials, saying your a news company when you not. Come on. You dont like that sh*t when its done to you. Dont rationalize the greed and pay-it-forward with greedy lies.<br />
YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE MONEY HONESTLY&#8230; IN FACT MORE BECAUSE YOU CAN SELL TO THE CUSTOMER MORE THAN 1X !!! unless you screw them over.<br />
Think about it !!!!<br />
p.s. even with all this sh*t I have been profitable since day 1 <img src='http://www.nickycakes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pimp C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pimp C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Responsibility goes to Merchant &gt; Network &gt; Affiliate .

I personally would not feel good promoting rebill biz offers. It&#039;s very clear they are ALL a scam.

It&#039;s sad really 50 damn CPA networks chuck full with scam offers. And people are saying it&#039;s the affiliates fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responsibility goes to Merchant &gt; Network &gt; Affiliate .</p>
<p>I personally would not feel good promoting rebill biz offers. It&#8217;s very clear they are ALL a scam.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad really 50 damn CPA networks chuck full with scam offers. And people are saying it&#8217;s the affiliates fault?</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.nickycakes.com/google-money-tree-hit-by-texas-attorney-general-can-you-really-be-this-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-5472</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the ENTIRE petition at http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2009/042209infusionmedia_pop.pdf ....dude, they have really nailed that Google Cash guy on the head. He has violated the law of &quot;deceptive practices&quot; so many times.

The petition also says that they will ask Jonathan Eborn to pay $20,000 TIME THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. Wow... It will be pretty hard for him to get acquitted in court and of course, all his money will be  snatched up by the IRS and government, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the ENTIRE petition at <a href="http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2009/042209infusionmedia_pop.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.oag.state.tx.us/newspubs/releases/2009/042209infusionmedia_pop.pdf</a> &#8230;.dude, they have really nailed that Google Cash guy on the head. He has violated the law of &#8220;deceptive practices&#8221; so many times.</p>
<p>The petition also says that they will ask Jonathan Eborn to pay $20,000 TIME THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. Wow&#8230; It will be pretty hard for him to get acquitted in court and of course, all his money will be  snatched up by the IRS and government, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Gozinya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Gozinya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea i agree. This should not be pinned on the networks or affiliates.

There are so many products out there that dont deliver. Just turn on the tv. The &#039;Columbia House&#039; and &#039;Free Credit Report&#039; were good examples.

But these companies do fine. Simply because they have complied with FTC criteria. Its not that hard. And it shouldnt effect profits too much. The truth is, consumers are dumb. They look to blame others for their stupidity. Even if there was a proper terms of service in bold print, they would have purchased anyway.

I lol&#039;d at the guy that says the rest of the ad industry frowns upon affiliate marketers because of our crappy reputation. Hes got it part right. Truth is, the rest of the &#039;traditional&#039; ad industry aren&#039;t so blatant in their selling approaches. They&#039;ve been burned before, and now they make sure the companies they work with comply with FTC regulations. But they still sell the same bs that no one needs.

Im sure those money tree guys will be fine. As well as the networks. I really think is just a PR stunt. Someone needs to look good. And from an advertisers point of view, i can understand that. Just comply and we&#039;ll all be fine.

This is a good chance for banks/credit cards to start promoting/offering &quot;Consumer purchace protection&quot; for their credit cards. Im sure we can help them with that. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea i agree. This should not be pinned on the networks or affiliates.</p>
<p>There are so many products out there that dont deliver. Just turn on the tv. The &#8216;Columbia House&#8217; and &#8216;Free Credit Report&#8217; were good examples.</p>
<p>But these companies do fine. Simply because they have complied with FTC criteria. Its not that hard. And it shouldnt effect profits too much. The truth is, consumers are dumb. They look to blame others for their stupidity. Even if there was a proper terms of service in bold print, they would have purchased anyway.</p>
<p>I lol&#8217;d at the guy that says the rest of the ad industry frowns upon affiliate marketers because of our crappy reputation. Hes got it part right. Truth is, the rest of the &#8216;traditional&#8217; ad industry aren&#8217;t so blatant in their selling approaches. They&#8217;ve been burned before, and now they make sure the companies they work with comply with FTC regulations. But they still sell the same bs that no one needs.</p>
<p>Im sure those money tree guys will be fine. As well as the networks. I really think is just a PR stunt. Someone needs to look good. And from an advertisers point of view, i can understand that. Just comply and we&#8217;ll all be fine.</p>
<p>This is a good chance for banks/credit cards to start promoting/offering &#8220;Consumer purchace protection&#8221; for their credit cards. Im sure we can help them with that. cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.nickycakes.com/google-money-tree-hit-by-texas-attorney-general-can-you-really-be-this-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-5412</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. I am amazed by the tone of the comments here. 

Are you guys Marketers or Sunday school teachers? Do you actually think the Acai-Fat-Poop-Away-Cleanse-Diet works? Let me tell you a little secret... The Free Credit Reports... they ain&#039;t really free either. 

The guy is either dumb or greedy... maybe both, but it&#039;s not fraud. 

This has political stunt written all over it.

I&#039;m guessing it must be election year down there or something...

States Attorney General&#039;s fall into one of two categories:

1) They&#039;re planning on running for Governor.

2)They ran for Governor and failed. 

As far as consumer protection goes, they serve almost no purpose. Seriously... call yours and you will see exactly what I mean. 

I&#039;m betting that a bunch of dumb hicks called the AG&#039;s 800 numbers because he uses tax payer money to run commercials all the time during their soaps. The guy&#039;s assistant says to him, &quot;Hey boss, you want to get some quick headlines and look like a hero?&quot; And hey presto charges are brought. 

The charges aren&#039;t worth the paper they are printed on.

1) They are suing for $20k!!! I will be amazed if the guy even gets served papers in any official capacity. 

2) The company is based in Utah and not in Texas. The TX AG&#039;s jurisdiction ends at the state border. Maybe if his server is based in TX there might be a case... but based on the AOL / VA / Jeremy Jaynes case, the US Supreme court thinks it&#039;s so bogus that they wont even hear it. 

3) If they seriously thought that &quot;Jonathan D. Eborn&quot; was committing fraud then they would not be suing him they would be arresting him... and it wouldn&#039;t be their case. Interstate fraud of any size is a Felony and would also have to be handled at the Federal level... I&#039;m pretty certain the FBI aren&#039;t gonna pick this up.

4) WTF!!! The AG is trying to bring Copyright infringement charges!! When did he become Google? The only way he could do that is if the defendant had been counterfeiting Google... How the heck do you counterfeit a search engine? At best he&#039;s hoping that Google will hear about this and sue the defendant so he can walk away. 

5)It charge is badly written. At one point the AG even admits that the defendant did offer a disclaimer! He just didn&#039;t like the fact the numerals weren&#039;t used. That&#039;s not illegal even in Tx.

What&#039;s really stupid about this is that the people were charged unsuspectingly (or that what they told their wife)wont get any money.

The system kinda takes care of it&#039;s self as far as this goes. Consumer calls credit card company and credit card company charge back the merchant bank. After enough chargebacks the merchant back raises the processing fees / fines so high that it&#039;s not worth carrying on... or they just close the account. Problem solved and no tax payer money is spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. I am amazed by the tone of the comments here. </p>
<p>Are you guys Marketers or Sunday school teachers? Do you actually think the Acai-Fat-Poop-Away-Cleanse-Diet works? Let me tell you a little secret&#8230; The Free Credit Reports&#8230; they ain&#8217;t really free either. </p>
<p>The guy is either dumb or greedy&#8230; maybe both, but it&#8217;s not fraud. </p>
<p>This has political stunt written all over it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing it must be election year down there or something&#8230;</p>
<p>States Attorney General&#8217;s fall into one of two categories:</p>
<p>1) They&#8217;re planning on running for Governor.</p>
<p>2)They ran for Governor and failed. </p>
<p>As far as consumer protection goes, they serve almost no purpose. Seriously&#8230; call yours and you will see exactly what I mean. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m betting that a bunch of dumb hicks called the AG&#8217;s 800 numbers because he uses tax payer money to run commercials all the time during their soaps. The guy&#8217;s assistant says to him, &#8220;Hey boss, you want to get some quick headlines and look like a hero?&#8221; And hey presto charges are brought. </p>
<p>The charges aren&#8217;t worth the paper they are printed on.</p>
<p>1) They are suing for $20k!!! I will be amazed if the guy even gets served papers in any official capacity. </p>
<p>2) The company is based in Utah and not in Texas. The TX AG&#8217;s jurisdiction ends at the state border. Maybe if his server is based in TX there might be a case&#8230; but based on the AOL / VA / Jeremy Jaynes case, the US Supreme court thinks it&#8217;s so bogus that they wont even hear it. </p>
<p>3) If they seriously thought that &#8220;Jonathan D. Eborn&#8221; was committing fraud then they would not be suing him they would be arresting him&#8230; and it wouldn&#8217;t be their case. Interstate fraud of any size is a Felony and would also have to be handled at the Federal level&#8230; I&#8217;m pretty certain the FBI aren&#8217;t gonna pick this up.</p>
<p>4) WTF!!! The AG is trying to bring Copyright infringement charges!! When did he become Google? The only way he could do that is if the defendant had been counterfeiting Google&#8230; How the heck do you counterfeit a search engine? At best he&#8217;s hoping that Google will hear about this and sue the defendant so he can walk away. </p>
<p>5)It charge is badly written. At one point the AG even admits that the defendant did offer a disclaimer! He just didn&#8217;t like the fact the numerals weren&#8217;t used. That&#8217;s not illegal even in Tx.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really stupid about this is that the people were charged unsuspectingly (or that what they told their wife)wont get any money.</p>
<p>The system kinda takes care of it&#8217;s self as far as this goes. Consumer calls credit card company and credit card company charge back the merchant bank. After enough chargebacks the merchant back raises the processing fees / fines so high that it&#8217;s not worth carrying on&#8230; or they just close the account. Problem solved and no tax payer money is spent.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF? You guys don&#039;t know what you&#039;re promoting? Come oooooon. You can not say that this falls entirely on the networks and the advetiser alone?

Scammers like this and the other countless shitty/non-existent products (Acai, other biz ops) are only around because affiliates are willing to promote these offers OR they would rather play dumb to that fact that this is what they are promoting.

At the network level there is a prisoner&#039;s dillema. If you don&#039;t put the offer on the net pubs complain that EPC&#039;s are higher with this other scammy/fraudulent offer. So what happens is that the shitty network that allowed (maybe even worked with this advertiser) this offer to get on the network and be promotable is rewarded for their efforts, so is the affiliate, and so is the merchant. Everyone is happy but the user, and the afiliates and networks that has taken the high road to only promote quality advertisers products and keep their Karma in check.

Bottom line is that if affiliate didn&#039;t run these offers these scams wouldn&#039;t have near the breadth they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF? You guys don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re promoting? Come oooooon. You can not say that this falls entirely on the networks and the advetiser alone?</p>
<p>Scammers like this and the other countless shitty/non-existent products (Acai, other biz ops) are only around because affiliates are willing to promote these offers OR they would rather play dumb to that fact that this is what they are promoting.</p>
<p>At the network level there is a prisoner&#8217;s dillema. If you don&#8217;t put the offer on the net pubs complain that EPC&#8217;s are higher with this other scammy/fraudulent offer. So what happens is that the shitty network that allowed (maybe even worked with this advertiser) this offer to get on the network and be promotable is rewarded for their efforts, so is the affiliate, and so is the merchant. Everyone is happy but the user, and the afiliates and networks that has taken the high road to only promote quality advertisers products and keep their Karma in check.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that if affiliate didn&#8217;t run these offers these scams wouldn&#8217;t have near the breadth they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Strangely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strangely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny as fuck!  &quot;Huntsville Prison Sodomy Tree&quot; - I wish I&#039;d thought of that.

Any US based &#039;business opportunity&#039; should be following the FTC route you say.  But what about our friends in Cyprus etc; they&#039;re just right out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny as fuck!  &#8220;Huntsville Prison Sodomy Tree&#8221; &#8211; I wish I&#8217;d thought of that.</p>
<p>Any US based &#8216;business opportunity&#8217; should be following the FTC route you say.  But what about our friends in Cyprus etc; they&#8217;re just right out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: needmoney.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>needmoney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ori Manor

Really? That was a scam as well? Hilarious.</description>
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<p>Really? That was a scam as well? Hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMFAO
&quot;But for real, if any affiliates get charged, Nickycakes hopes Jonathan is turned into the Huntsville Prison Sodomy Tree.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMFAO<br />
&#8220;But for real, if any affiliates get charged, Nickycakes hopes Jonathan is turned into the Huntsville Prison Sodomy Tree.&#8221;</p>
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